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I have a slight suspicion that some women from other countries marry the men on death row, simply for US citizenship.
Any thoughts?
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A practical impossibility.One of the side effects of the Patriot Act was that legal aliens gained even more scrutiny by the department of immigration.
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Joined: Jan 2009 Gender: Female  Posts: 16 Karma: 0 |  | Re: "Going to he chapel and we're gonna get a visa « Reply #2 on Jan 29, 2009, 4:54am » | |
if they hooked up with an inmate that was going to get released tho, i think it might be a real good thing.
1, those ladies know the price of non-success, they've seen it and left it to come here. they might be great motivators/goal oriented and appreciative, wanting to be here, etc.
2, if criminal behavior has anything to do with genetics; well it kind of speaks for it's self the idea of importing new blood to the line.
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Joined: Oct 2006 Gender: Female  Posts: 1,031 Location: UK Karma: 43 |  | Re: "Going to he chapel and we're gonna get a visa « Reply #3 on Jan 29, 2009, 2:11pm » | |
You have got to be kidding. Six months of being exposed to American 'Justus' and you'd have to tie me down and sedate me for the rest of my life to want to live in the US. It's usually the other way around - US inmates who are going to get out, marry overseas to get the hell out of the country. I have no idea why so many Americans think that Europeans are desperate for a Green Card? New Zealand is the country we all want to head for.
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Joined: Oct 2006 Gender: Female  Posts: 1,031 Location: UK Karma: 43 |  | Re: "Going to he chapel and we're gonna get a visa « Reply #5 on Jan 29, 2009, 3:39pm » | |
ROFLMAO!! Too much information, Dio
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Joined: Jun 2008 Gender: Female  Posts: 67 Karma: 27 |  | Re: "Going to he chapel and we're gonna get a visa « Reply #6 on Jan 29, 2009, 7:07pm » | |
I must say that I agree with debs on this...I am from Europe and I have lived in the States for a while...and I loved it. But marry an inmate for a greencard?? No way... We have this saying here...Paper is patient ( I hope you write it like that) which means you can write down many things even if you don´t mean them because paper can´t tell the difference between honesty or lie. And that is what some women just fall for. Those men in prison and especially on death row have all the time in the world to think on romantic things to write. And if they get ahold of someone naive...they fall in love with an illusion.
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Joined: May 2008 Gender: Female  Posts: 205 Karma: 23 |  | Re: "Going to he chapel and we're gonna get a visa « Reply #7 on Jan 30, 2009, 12:14am » | |
I can's see why anyone would marry an inmate for access to the USA. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against the good old USA but hell there sure is better way's to gain citizenship over there. Me personally would not allow citzenship to any European lady's who have applied on the basis of having there "husband" inside. I write alot of letter's to my husband and in a way I know what it's like to read them and all the lovely dovey thing's he write's and think awwww that's sweet even after 15 year's together...easy enough I guess for person reading a letter from an inmate...but my husband aint out to scam me for money etc.... Maybe it's time you women turned your attention to the more needy people in the world but hey I aint the one looking for citizenship for my lover/husband/whatever inside...
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Joined: Oct 2006 Gender: Female  Posts: 1,031 Location: UK Karma: 43 |  | Re: "Going to he chapel and we're gonna get a visa « Reply #8 on Jan 30, 2009, 1:20am » | |
About four years ago, there was a woman named Xenia. She appeared in a magazine, saying that she was going to go to the USA to marry an inmate. She was leaving behind a husband and two kids. Apparently, the marriage was already not so good but leaving the kids behind while she got settled? She had a lovely home, but she was on Morning TV, magazines, a documentary, and wearing this bloody white meringue wedding dress that she was going to wear to marry this guy. She blathered on about moving to the US, and applying for a Green Card once she was there.
The outcome? The US authorities stopped her when she landed in the US, kept her overnight in a cell, and sent her back. She was made subject to a Deportation Order that meant she couldn't set foot in the US for at least two years. Even the inmate was aghast, because he hadn't asked her to leave her kids and home. Some women do move over, but they move over for the guy, and not the Green Card. I've only heard of one or two, and the guy's weren't DR. One would have come anyway, and the other was in the papers and was a raving fruitcake.
Putting it brutally - a man on Death Row is going to die. You will not get a Green Card because with his death, you will be sent home. (It even happened with that poor woman who lost her American husband in the Twin Towers, she was ordered to leave the country.)
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Does that mean that if they do get a green card over say there relationship with a death row inmate and when they are executed can they apply again when they find the next death row inmate to "marry" lol. Well it's been done before these woman marry one guy he get's executed so they move onto the next one
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I don't understand women from other countries wasting money for flights & hotel stays to visit a person who has killed - they only go after the death row inmates.. It makes no sense to me at all...If they want to visit an inmate they have prison in their country. Why come to America unless there is something to gain.
I know one woman named Norma (?) who came to the USA an married Sean O'Brien a couple days before he was put to death. What was the point other than to gain 15 minutes of shame. After he was put to death she moved onto another death row inmate. Is she looking for 15 more minutes of shame? There is a reason why women from other countries want to marry these fools in prison otherwise they wouldn't bother writing, wasting money & etc. It's not to reach out to give kind words, they can support the prisoniers in their own country, if they want to support inmates.....I really do think they have a motive.
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Best way to support death row inmate's is by making sure there execution's are carried out! What other support do they need! I have better thing's to do with my money than waste it visiting or sending it to inmate's. I read somewhere on the internet about them getting women to send in pic's of them with next to nothing on and then trading them around the other guy's.. god d%%% where is my camera when I need it!
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Jan 31, 2009, 7:17am, beachluver wrote:I don't understand women from other countries wasting money for flights & hotel stays to visit a person who has killed - they only go after the death row inmates.. It makes no sense to me at all...If they want to visit an inmate they have prison in their country. Why come to America unless there is something to gain.
I know one woman named Norma (?) who came to the USA an married Sean O'Brien a couple days before he was put to death. What was the point other than to gain 15 minutes of shame. After he was put to death she moved onto another death row inmate. Is she looking for 15 more minutes of shame? There is a reason why women from other countries want to marry these fools in prison otherwise they wouldn't bother writing, wasting money & etc. It's not to reach out to give kind words, they can support the prisoniers in their own country, if they want to support inmates.....I really do think they have a motive. |
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Mrs O' Brien was a Finnish woman by the name of Nora....she was a nutcase ,who even after he repeatedly appologised for his role in the crime , claimed her man was to sweet to do such things. Fortunately for the groupie forum she dropped out of sight following the execution , thereby raising the overal forum IQ by several points.
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OMG that's terrible I can't believe people would stoop so low as to do thing's like that......
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Joined: May 2008 Gender: Female  Posts: 205 Karma: 23 |  | Re: "Going to he chapel and we're gonna get a visa « Reply #16 on Jan 31, 2009, 5:12pm » | |
Lmfaooooo I wonder how much that will fetch when traded with the other women with her on death row....
Wonder what I'd get for one of me in my thong's amongst the men of Polunsky Unit lmfaoooooo
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Jan 31, 2009, 7:40am, pinksoxs wrote:| Best way to support death row inmate's is by making sure there execution's are carried out! What other support do they need! I have better thing's to do with my money than waste it visiting or sending it to inmate's. I read somewhere on the internet about them getting women to send in pic's of them with next to nothing on and then trading them around the other guy's.. god d%%% where is my camera when I need it! |
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I agree! It's so "barbaric" to stick a needle in a condemned man/woman's arm. What s/he done wasn't barbaric? What planet are those people living on? People who attempt to defend killers, crack me up. If they really saw what they are typing, most would stop. They all look like a bunch of fools.
I don't "think" an inmate really cares what a "pen pal" looks like as long as they can get what they want...I'm sure 100% of the inmates are lonely, so when someone pays them the slightest bit of attention they are going to jump on it... It's not like they gotta go out into public with the women. If on the streets I'm sure they wouldn't even give those women a second look...
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Joined: Oct 2008 Gender: Female  Posts: 30 Karma: 2 |  | Re: "Going to he chapel and we're gonna get a visa « Reply #18 on Feb 1, 2009, 2:00am » | |
Jan 31, 2009, 2:39pm, mr dio wrote:| Mrs O' Brien was a Finnish woman by the name of Nora....she was a nutcase ,who even after he repeatedly appologised for his role in the crime , claimed her man was to sweet to do such things. Fortunately for the groupie forum she dropped out of sight following the execution , thereby raising the overal forum IQ by several points. |
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Thanks. I knew I got her name wrong. All those women "loving a dr inmate" they found on a pen-pal site are nutcases.
I like this statement made by some women. "My man wouldn't hurt a fly." They are insane..
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Feb 1, 2009, 1:54am, beachluver wrote: Jan 31, 2009, 7:40am, pinksoxs wrote:| Best way to support death row inmate's is by making sure there execution's are carried out! What other support do they need! I have better thing's to do with my money than waste it visiting or sending it to inmate's. I read somewhere on the internet about them getting women to send in pic's of them with next to nothing on and then trading them around the other guy's.. god d%%% where is my camera when I need it! |
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I agree! It's so "barbaric" to stick a needle in a condemned man/woman's arm. What s/he done wasn't barbaric? What planet are those people living on? People who attempt to defend killers, crack me up. If they really saw what they are typing, most would stop. They all look like a bunch of fools.
I don't "think" an inmate really cares what a "pen pal" looks like as long as they can get what they want...I'm sure 100% of the inmates are lonely, so when someone pays them the slightest bit of attention they are going to jump on it... It's not like they gotta go out into public with the women. If on the streets I'm sure they wouldn't even give those women a second look... |
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Who's to say they ain't conning more than one woman at any one time? More than likely got a string of them on the go at once, just think of all the trading card's they can collect...
How about showing these "groupie's" picture's of the victim's and what they looked like after these scum bag's had finished with them and maybe that will shock them into thinking they aint all sweetness and light like they think they are! And if after that they still think the sun shine's out of there butt's then they aint all there in the head!!!
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Many of them have several "women" or pen-pals. The women believe they are the only ones. One dude is playing I believe 4 people according to a site. One dingbat sold her car to send the death row inmate money for a xbox. Now, why they are entitled to play video games is beyond me.... Not a d%%% one of those death row inmates or even most inmates would be seen with any of those women in the free world....When you read their posts about their lives prior to hooking up with a dr inmate - it tells it all.... One thing I do not understand is the women say they are faithful to their men..Why is a woman faithful to a man who she will never have sexually? Unless she plans to have sex with a dead..........oh nevermind, they probably would as sick and twist as those broads are.
You know, I think a lot of them have convinced themselves their "man" is innocent. Seeing pictures of the crime may not even phase them at all...They have it in their head "My man is innocent, fun loving & wouldn't hurt anyone & he's in prison unjustly." There's is no telling how these crazy broads minds work, to be honest.... They are all in a fantasy world..
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These woman who marry death row inmate's In my eye's don't have and never will have a " proper relationship" with these men. Writing and talking is not a form of a proper stable relationship and that's all they can have as the only human contact they can have with them is after they are executed. Crazy ain't the word unless they truelly believe these men will end up getting off death row and even if they did I hardly think they would run straight into there arm's, more like run the other way.....
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Joined: Jan 2009 Gender: Female  Posts: 16 Karma: 0 |  | Re: "Going to he chapel and we're gonna get a visa « Reply #22 on Feb 7, 2009, 10:48am » | |
maybe so. like All men. LOL. but it brings to mind the point that women might feel more loved because they think the guy Doesn't have anyone else. like an imaginary friend that never likes anyone else and loves only you and is extra special because they ARE tough but will Never hurt you. like how my dog will not come to anyone else but would never bite me.
re marriage..i never really see penpal ads from europeans. The only european ones are young men just looking to see who else is out there and also scamsters who want to exchange banknotes. The women are from 3rd world countries.
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If these men can con one woman then they can con a few in a row. It's highly unlikely that these woman will know about each other.. It's not as if they will meet while walking hand in hand with there lover... still if these woman want to be sucked in by there monster's who am I to stop it....
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One thing I do not understand...does marrying an inmate really get you a green card? I remember when I got married it wasn´t all that easy to go to the States and my ex-husband was not in prison... He had to prove that he could support me in America...his family had to lay open their finacial Staus and they had to sign like a contract that they would support me in case my ex would not be able to...now surely a death row inmate can not support a lady outside?
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Aint the woman from Europe who married Troy Knuckle before he was executed now living in the state's?
I think I read somewhere she's running some kinda house thingy where people from outside the usa can stay while they are over visiting inmate's in Polunsky... I only wonder who she's visiting in Polunsky now since he's been executed!
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getting a green card is not automatic when you marry. The spouse must apply and be able to support the alien. I married a foreigner and it took over a year for us to get approved, by which time we had a baby for whom we had to present the birth cert. They also expect you to live together and ask you questions to prove that you do. The US is hip to green card marriages believe me.
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Most of the women who are involved with DR inmates in US prisons are across the pond. Maybe I'm missing something, when did they have the right to chant about the DP? You see very few women in the US drooling over DR inmates. Wouldn't it be wise to deport the DR inmates to their groupies county and ban them from ever entering the USA since so many love our killers & think they're the sweetest things next to sugar. Hell, let them live with these women & lets see how quick they stop trying to change our laws.
All of them complain about US prisons treating their fantasy lovers inhumanely. What I find odd, not a single one complains about other countries who have the DP. They aren't online protesting to save a poor innocent person from the cruel & inhumane ways others take out criminals. Does the USA get more media coverage than other countries? If so, Is it a simple way of being a somebody in this world by marrying a person who has brutally taken an INNOCENT persons life, & most likely would take your life if given the chance. I don't see why anyone would waste their time marrying someone they will never be with...What a waste of your life to waste it on someone who did give a crap about another persons life. Those who are prison groupies are insane.
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May 27, 2009, 6:46am, beachluver wrote:Most of the women who are involved with DR inmates in US prisons are across the pond. Maybe I'm missing something, when did they have the right to chant about the DP? You see very few women in the US drooling over DR inmates. Wouldn't it be wise to deport the DR inmates to their groupies county and ban them from ever entering the USA since so many love our killers & think they're the sweetest things next to sugar. Hell, let them live with these women & lets see how quick they stop trying to change our laws.
All of them complain about US prisons treating their fantasy lovers inhumanely. What I find odd, not a single one complains about other countries who have the DP. They aren't online protesting to save a poor innocent person from the cruel & inhumane ways others take out criminals. Does the USA get more media coverage than other countries? If so, Is it a simple way of being a somebody in this world by marrying a person who has brutally taken an INNOCENT persons life, & most likely would take your life if given the chance. I don't see why anyone would waste their time marrying someone they will never be with...What a waste of your life to waste it on someone who did give a crap about another persons life. Those who are prison groupies are insane. |
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You only get to hear about the European ones for the novelty value. Check it out further, and you'll find thousands of US women. The ones who I know who've remarried other DR inmates have all been American. I met one who met her first DR husband while she was working as a corrections officer, lost him, then went on to marry another. Insane. Doing it once is bizarre enough.
They chant about the DP because they're entitled to, the same as Americans chant about issues in other countries, that they don't like, or agree with. It's called Western Democracy. A lot of the women do belong to Amnesty and do get involved with other countries, but that's generally done through Amnesty. Unless you're sitting in China reading a chinese newspaper or reading a Chinese discussion board, you'd never know. Not that a westerner would have much chance of posting anything on a chinese board, even the Chinese don't get to do that, from what have heard. And that's what gives anyone the right to speak out in any Democracy - the right to Free Speech. If you're saying that someone can't speak out about any issue in your country because they don't belong to that country or don't agree with you - you're effectively saying that you have a democratic right, and they don't. As matter of interest, would you quote the same complaint about what right would a European PRO-Dp advocate have, to speak out FOR the DP? Or is that perfectly acceptable because that's in agreement with you, whilst the other stance, isn't?
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There are American women that fall for DR inmates. You only hear more about the European wives for some reason. Novelty value, like Debs said probably. The wives have a right to an opinion, but unless they are a citizen of this country they don't really have much of a say unless they get citizens that agree involved. Some Euro wives complain about other countries and their death penalties, but they tend to be louder when it comes to the United States. The United States is supposed to be more "civilized" compared to the likes of Iran or China for example.
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